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Build help and troubleshooting => MP573 Microphone preamplifier => Topic started by: musicarr on August 25, 2025, 03:11:47 AM

Title: Loud Pop When Changing dB Rotary Switch
Post by: musicarr on August 25, 2025, 03:11:47 AM
Hi,

I've just finished building my second MP573. Both of them seem to be working well, from the tests I've done according to the Setup Guide. All tests were good. But on the first one, when changing the dB level on the rotary switch, there are little pops, not terrible, but present. On the second one, the pops are quite pronounced, especially when going from 20 to 30 dB. So much so that it puts the meters into the red within Pro Tools.

So main question: Is this normal, or should there be no pop at all when change dB positions on the rotary switch?

I searched for "pop" in the support forums and found the following two threads:



As I'm quite new to DIY, I didn't fully understand all that was said in the above threads, hence this new thread. Sounds like the pops should not be happing. What would be my starting point to test for what might be wrong?

Thanks
Title: Re: Loud Pop When Changing dB Rotary Switch
Post by: JPK on August 25, 2025, 03:16:16 PM
Pops are often caused by a reversed electrolytic or tantalum capacitor.
So the first thing to check is the direction of these caps: The + sign on the layout must match the + side of the capacitor. 
Title: Re: Loud Pop When Changing dB Rotary Switch
Post by: musicarr on August 25, 2025, 03:49:53 PM
I was consciously, and verbally, careful to the direction of all caps set correctly. But it doesn't mean I missed one somewhere. I'll check every cap and let you know what I find. 
Title: Re: Loud Pop When Changing dB Rotary Switch
Post by: musicarr on August 25, 2025, 10:31:11 PM
With the electrolytic caps, it's easier to see where the negative and positive wires are. And on the tantalum caps, the "+" sign to the right of the labeling points to the positive lead. Is it possible, sometimes, that the "longer" lead of might not be the positive lead? I was going off of the longest lead on the tantalum caps. Is that reliable, or should you always look for the "+" marking to know which lead is the positive?
Title: Re: Loud Pop When Changing dB Rotary Switch
Post by: musicarr on August 26, 2025, 02:01:52 AM
I checked all the electrolytic and tantalum caps. There was one tantalum cap that was backwards. I switched it to the correct polarity and the "bib pop" is gone. So that must have been the issue. There still is a slight "pop" going from 20 dB to 30 dB. It registers at about -30 db on the Pro Tools meter. The other positions don't seem to have that large a "pop", as they register about -45 dB on the Pro Tools meter. Is there something else I should look at, or is that "pop" going from 20 dB to 30 dB "normal"?
Title: Re: Loud Pop When Changing dB Rotary Switch
Post by: JPK on August 26, 2025, 03:29:39 PM
is that "pop" going from 20 dB to 30 dB "normal"?
Some pop at this position is normal because the 30 position adds a preamplifier stage to the audio path.
If it is feels too loud it could be that the reversed tantalum as suffered from the reversed polarity (not unlikely).
Title: Re: Loud Pop When Changing dB Rotary Switch
Post by: musicarr on August 26, 2025, 03:57:57 PM
Go it. Thanks for the clarification. Just to see if that might be the case, I'll replace it. As a reference, it was C20 that I had backwards. Just to be sure I'm ordering the correct replacement, I'm looking for a 22uf 16v tantalum capacitor to replace C20. Is this what I'm looking for (amazon)?

https://www.amazon.com/Uxcell-a14042900ux0341-Yellow-Tantalum-Capacitors/dp/B00PZLX93O/

Thanks
Title: Re: Loud Pop When Changing dB Rotary Switch
Post by: JPK on August 27, 2025, 09:34:38 AM
I don't know this particular brand but the specs are the right ones: 22uF - 16V.
Title: Re: Loud Pop When Changing dB Rotary Switch
Post by: musicarr on August 27, 2025, 02:29:21 PM
Thanks for the confirmation. Are there brands that you are familiar with that you recommend?
Title: Re: Loud Pop When Changing dB Rotary Switch
Post by: JPK on August 28, 2025, 08:37:17 AM
KEMET, KYOCERA, Vishay.
Title: Re: Loud Pop When Changing dB Rotary Switch
Post by: musicarr on August 28, 2025, 02:42:27 PM
Great! Thanks for the info. I know what to look for now.
Title: Re: Loud Pop When Changing dB Rotary Switch
Post by: musicarr on August 28, 2025, 06:47:45 PM
Another question: what tolerance is recommended for the capacitors? 1%, 5%, 10%, or is 20% fine, too? Do tolerances differ for different kinds of capacitors used in these audio units, or is it the same pretty much across the board? Thanks.
Title: Re: Loud Pop When Changing dB Rotary Switch
Post by: JPK on August 30, 2025, 09:12:22 AM
10% tolerance is enough for these DC removing tantalum caps.
Electrolytic aluminum caps are generally 20%.
Ceramic and film are 5%, 10% or 20% depending on their role.
Title: Re: Loud Pop When Changing dB Rotary Switch
Post by: musicarr on August 30, 2025, 05:01:28 PM
Got it. I know what to get for the C20, then. Thanks.