[mwhitlock]

I have built a stereo pair of the CP5176. Seems both are operating on their own, but one unit has significantly higher input level than the other. For them to match up in stereo I need to put e.g. input to 2 on one and 5 on the other. 

I saw there was a similar issue reported on another thread, but that was regarding a mismatch on the output. Any hint where I should focus initial fault search?

Thanks in advance!

[JPK]

Isn't this a problem caused by adjusting the P6 trimmer in setup step 7?
Do you have the same difference when the side chain is inhibited: jumper in 2-3 ?
Compare the input signal level on TP1 with input pot at max on both units.

[mwhitlock]

Hi again,

Isn't this a problem caused by adjusting the P6 trimmer in setup step 7?
---> I've redone calibration on both units, with the same results. 

Do you have the same difference when the side chain is inhibited: jumper in 2-3 ?
---> Yes, with a jumper on 2-3 there is still a difference. 

Compare the input signal level on TP1 with input pot at max on both units.

---> With the same input signal (1 kHz sine measured to 0.334VAC) I get 0.659 VAC on TP1 with one unit and 0.217 VAC on the other. (Input volume set to max on both). 

[JPK]

Check the resistor value of P1 on each unit (between TP1 and 0V with pot at max).
Check the input resistance on each unplugged unit between fingers 8 and 10 (2kohms). Verify that there is no resistance leak between these and the 0V.
Check that the transformer is in the correct direction in both units (logo pointing up).

[mwhitlock]

Check that the transformer is in the correct direction in both units (logo pointing up).
--> Both have logo pointing up

Check the resistor value of P1 on each unit (between TP1 and 0V with pot at max).
--> Unit A measures 1.64 kohm between TP1 and 0V. Unit B measures 1.740 kohm.

Check the input resistance on each unplugged unit between fingers 8 and 10 (2kohms). Verify that there is no resistance leak between these and the 0V.
--> Here we seem to have an issue... Unit A measures 2.15 kohm between 8 and 10, while unit B only measures 55 ohm... None of them seem to leak between 8/10 and 0V.

[JPK]

Check the name on the input transformer: CMLI - 15/15PCA
If OK, remove (very carefully) the input transformer and
measure the resistor value between pin 1 & 4 : ~ 2k2
measure the resistor value between pin 5 & 8 : ~ 2k2

[mwhitlock]

Hi!

Unit A unfortunately has a very bad print on the input transformer, so I can't see anything else than the CineMag logo. That is however the unit demonstrating the correct (2.2kohm) resistance between PIN 8-10 so I assume it is the right one. 

Unit B, the one that only shows 55 ohms between fingers 8-10, has a readable print. But it does not seem to be the right one... The label on the input transformer says "CM-75101APC". So I guess it is the wrong one...? 

Darn... I double checked basically all other components with multimeter before soldering in place, but obviously I never thought of checking that the input transformer that it was the right one...

[JPK]

I am sorry, we just realized that Cinemag mixed up a few CM75101 in our last batch of CMMI 15/15.
Please contact me for a replacement.

[mwhitlock]

OK, good to have the cause of the issue sorted out. Thanks for great support JPK!

[mwhitlock]

New transformer arrived quickly, and has now replaced the wrong one. Works like a charm together with the stereo pair now after another setup. Many thanks!!!

[JPK]