Author Topic: SS CP4500

September 25, 2021, 02:56:29 AM
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Chris Poland

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Hi 
I just purchased a CP4500 off Reverb. I read all the specs online before I bought it and was really impressed. I had to sell a Smart C2 for money reasons and the CP4500 looked like it could do the job minus the crush option. When I did my research I saw the 8 pin in a row THAT Corp. 2180 VCA's inside the CP4500. When I got the unit the builder said that Sound Skulptor had changed to these smaller squarish THAT VCA's (4 pins on each side). Needless to say I was not happy. This VCA is small with 4 pins on each side. The only THAT VCA I have ever seen used in compressors is the longer 8 pin in a row version. I want to know if it is a THAT 2180 VCA is it an A,B or C version? Also are the compressors specs the same with these smaller VCA's as it was with the larger 8 pin in a row 2180 models. I can't see anything on them but "THAT". They are very SMALL.
Anyone know anything about these?  Or if there was a change in the CP4500 design specs recently.
It is going on the master bus so I really want to know.
Thanks for your help,
Chris Poland

September 25, 2021, 08:44:42 AM
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JPK

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The THAT 2180 have been in a worldwide shortage since 18 months and it is not finished. This is an explanation by Keith Persin the Managing Director of THAT.

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The delays are due to the packaging stage of manufacturing process as this is outsourced and currently THAT Corporation have only one source for the SIP package. Wafer availability and test capacity are not a problem. The packaging vendor is based in India and the initial delays were due to the lockdown because of COVID19. The factory is now at reduced capacity due to new safe distance working practices. However, there are compound problems. The SIP mold for that package is old and has two sections. One section needed repair and has been sent to a specialist tooling company in Malaysia, but shortly after it arrived the tooling vendor shut down due to Covid-19. Efforts are being made to recover the tooling and complete the refurbishing work. When back up and running again the mold process is slow and limited capacity and a 28-week order back log has built up. 
The shortage was only for the SIP packages, not for the smaller SOIC package 2181.

The THAT 2181 is exactly the same chip inside, the only difference being that it is not laser trimmed for distortion (the package is too small).
To avoid being out of stock of CP4500 for 2 years, we decided to reengineer our product in order to use the SOIC packages.
We designed an easy procedure to do the distortion setup with a trim potentiometer. We are now able to achieve even better distortion results than with the pre-trimmed VCA's.

In conclusion, the specs of the CP4500 using the SOIC packages are exactly the same (or better) as those using the SIP package.
JPK

September 27, 2021, 09:01:05 PM
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Chris Poland

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JPK and all at SS,
Thank you for your post. We auditioned the unit before I read your post today and we were really happy with the results. Its everything we hoped it would be. 
Having never seen the smaller version of this VCA it just made me nervous. Thanks for the post and the CP4500. It's impressive. It replaced a Smart C2 and the C2 is not missed at all.
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